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Postby Blackguard » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:29 pm

It seems that Kompany rejected Chel$hit :

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/transfer_centre/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/07/07/SOCCER_Kompany_Chelsea.html

I think Kompany was spot on. To sign for Chelsea means to take a bet with your career.

In my opinion, it's the arrival of the billionaire who made Chelsea the most hated team in Europe. Since Abramovici, Chelsea has turned into a cheating team. I shall elaborate : Chelsea is nothing else than the equivalent of an athlete who takes steroids (in our case, Abramovici's money=steroids). It's the perfect analogy to describe Chelsea's attitude. An athlete who is taking steroids improves his own performances with help from outside, which has nothing to do with his own abilities. This is exactly what Chelsea does : they receive money from an outside source (Abramovici), money which have nothing to do with their success on the pitch, which keep them on top.

Real, Barca, United, Arsenal, Milan, Inter, Bayern are teams which put some "muscle" due to their own effort, with good football and financial strategies, while Chelsea has absolutely NO STRATEGY, but they simply take money from Abramovici. Chelsea's success is not the result of a natural evolution, like Manchester United, who, from a mediocre club in the '80s, became on of the best in the world, not the result of a very intelligent management : instead, a billionaire popped in, put a bag of money on the table, hired a good coach, brought the players he asked and trophies started coming. But this is not competition, because this way could come Ruport Murdoch, buy a team like Real Sociedad, invest 500 million euros and make them a challenger for Champion's League. It's like I would compete in Tour de France using a Honda motocycle and then boast "Cheer me, I'm better than Lance Armstrong". Well, I'm not better than Lance, because, without my superbike, I'm nobody. The same for Chelsea : without the russian's money, Chelsea is a nobody. With 1 billion euros offered on a plate, a team from a second division could turn into a competitor for Champion's League.

Chelsea is a team whose valor is totally artificial, increased with a pump by the money of a billionaire. That's why Chelsea is the most loathed team at the moment : because they don't represent something else than a billionaire who wants to buy himself some trophies (statement proven by the fact that Chelsea did not bring any financial gain to Abramovici and that the russian is ready to pay for players much more than they are really worth, only to have them in his team). And, because he can't simply buy the trophies, he buys players.

Also, Chelsea's success is built on sand. If Abramovici leaves (God knows why), Chelsea would have to fight to avoid relegation.

The two titles do not belong to Chelsea, they belong to Abramovici. It is a big difference. The club had no merit in this success. Abramovici brought the money, the coach, the players, everything.

Make the comparison with Manchester United, who had to work hard to reach the top, nobody gave them a blank check, while Chelsea had everything offered on a plate. What Chelsea's fans don't understand when they say that the other clubs do the same is that those clubs, when they buy a player, they use their own money. Chelsea does not do that : the club can't bid that high to bring all those players or to offer such high wages. This is what annoys the other fans : their clubs pay their coaches and players from their own income, nobody gives them money for free.

Abramovici's attitude results in a couple of bad things, for both Chelsea and the football in general :

Abramovici made Chelsea rely heavily on his own fortune. And the risk is enormous. Sure, if he does not give a damn about the club, he has no reason to care, but if he is concerned for the club, he should ask himself : what happens if I have to retire from football ? If a club is not capable to support himself, this is bad. But Abramovici, offering insane amounts of money for transfers and huge wages, puts on Chelsea's fragile shoulders an enormous financial burden, which the club can't cope with, if not for the russian.

From the point of view of sport, this stuff is quite unfair, because it looks like unloyal competition. UEFA can't stop this, because they did not foresee something like that : they assumed that if someone takes over a club, he will want to make profit and the economy will stop him from making absurd bids. What UEFA did not foresee was that could appear someone with a lot of money, not interested in making profit, who simply wants trophies. It's like the boss of a company would not be interested in making profit, but winning the title "The best company in the country" and for this he hires the best employees, no matter if the income is lower than the expenses. In business, this would be ridiculous, but in sport it has some serious consequences :

1. It raises the prices offered for players above their real worth. Essien would never have been worth 38 million euros if not for Abramovici. The same for Drogba.

2. It raises the wages. The most recent example : Ballack. Does he deserve a better salary than Ronaldinho, especially at the age of 30 ? Because there is an eccentric at Chelsea who knows no limits, many players ask for higher wages, threatening their clubs with Abramovici, so pushing their clubs to financially increased efforts.

3. Turns the players into a kind of mercenaries. With the russian's bags of money, love for club tends to become something more and more seldom. And it's also this attitude "I have money, I buy everything", which pisses of terribly.

We are lucky that many players, because they love their clubs or they have enough brains to realize that the "Abramovici Inc." stinks, are not willing to accept the russian's bids.

Besides, there is also the sportive ethics : if you create a world team (that is what Abramovici intended to do, but he did not succeed, because Raul, Henry, Vieri, Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Nesta, Sevcenko said "no" to him until now), then you could as well buy Champion's League and end of story. Yeah, Sevcenko changed his mind, but that's because his wife is a no-brainer.

And there is another aspect : what is extremely annoying at Abramovici is not just what he did, but also what he wanted to do. Over the last 3 years, there was no big name in world football for which Abramovici did not make an offer beyond the limits of common sense.
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Postby Catalan-Tractor-Boy » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:55 pm

Well said!
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Postby Murph » Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:01 pm

Chelski in the s*** again. They have been repoprted to the FA, Premier League and FIFA by Leeds Utd. They've been accused of trying to tap up 3 of their 16y/o's and signing 2 of them.
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Postby archie@leeds » Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:26 pm

F***ing FILTH!!!! :x :x :x
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Postby eldiablo1899 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:56 pm

Chelski are scum :evil:
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Postby Lemmiwinks » Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:28 pm

hopefully bates can make something happen, they have a 3 point suspended sentence for cole tapping up, so if you think they tapped up 3 leeds youth players (only 2 signed) they should have a 12 point deduction, then you have the john obi mikel deal...

chelsea are above rules :|
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Postby Murph » Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:31 pm

The FA will do no doubt do SFA again though :roll:
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Postby TrueBlue » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:54 am

Lemmiwinks wrote:hopefully bates can make something happen, they have a 3 point suspended sentence for cole tapping up, so if you think they tapped up 3 leeds youth players (only 2 signed) they should have a 12 point deduction, then you have the john obi mikel deal...

chelsea are above rules :|


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Postby Lemmiwinks » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:05 pm

TrueBlue wrote:
Lemmiwinks wrote:hopefully bates can make something happen, they have a 3 point suspended sentence for cole tapping up, so if you think they tapped up 3 leeds youth players (only 2 signed) they should have a 12 point deduction, then you have the john obi mikel deal...

chelsea are above rules :|


You trust the media to much you think it's all true? come on!


so chelsea didn't tap up ashley cole?

so 2 leeds youth players didn't join chelsea after being approached without the club's permission? and another rejected them.

as for the obi mikel deal, everyone knows he was a man utd player (contracts and all) until chelsea went to his 'agent'- a well known crook in nigeria and offered him more money and then chelsea pursued every possible avenue and threw money everywhere until they got what they wanted.

no class.
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Postby TrueBlue » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:37 pm

Lemmiwinks wrote:
TrueBlue wrote:
Lemmiwinks wrote:hopefully bates can make something happen, they have a 3 point suspended sentence for cole tapping up, so if you think they tapped up 3 leeds youth players (only 2 signed) they should have a 12 point deduction, then you have the john obi mikel deal...

chelsea are above rules :|


You trust the media to much you think it's all true? come on!


so chelsea didn't tap up ashley cole?

so 2 leeds youth players didn't join chelsea after being approached without the club's permission? and another rejected them.

as for the obi mikel deal, everyone knows he was a man utd player (contracts and all) until chelsea went to his 'agent'- a well known crook in nigeria and offered him more money and then chelsea pursued every possible avenue and threw money everywhere until they got what they wanted.

no class.


1.Ashley wanted to go anyway
2.Ken Bates is a ****** Judas and just jealous he is not in charge anymore.
3.Obi mikel went to a better club

4.no class? won't comment that :?
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Postby BarcaSEL » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:38 pm

1.Ashley wanted to go anyway


Doesn't make it legal.
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Postby Murph » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:42 pm

TrueBlue wrote:
1.Ashley wanted to go anyway
2.Ken Bates is a ****** Judas and just jealous he is not in charge anymore.
3.Obi mikel went to a better club

4.no class? won't comment that :?


1) You still broke the rules.

2) You should be careful before slagging off Bates. If it wasn't for him you might not be supporting Chelsea now.

3) Mikel had to break a legally binding contract to move to your club, wouldn't want him at Barca even if he was the best player in the world. Players like that are scum.

4) You do need to learn some morals, thats for sure.
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Postby TrueBlue » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:47 pm

Murph wrote:
TrueBlue wrote:
1.Ashley wanted to go anyway
2.Ken Bates is a ****** Judas and just jealous he is not in charge anymore.
3.Obi mikel went to a better club

4.no class? won't comment that :?


1) You still broke the rules.

2) You should be careful before slagging off Bates. If it wasn't for him you might not be supporting Chelsea now.

3) Mikel had to break a legally binding contract to move to your club, wouldn't want him at Barca even if he was the best player in the world. Players like that are scum.

4) You do need to learn some morals, thats for sure.


1.We where punished for that

2.Bates did quite a lot for Chelsea and i will never forget that but still to insult chelsea's name with his claim's.....you think that is fair?

3.Who said i wanted him in the squad.........

4.Why do i need to learn morals?
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Postby Murph » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:54 pm

Chelsea do continue to break the rules though. If you try stealing Leeds players, then Bates can say what he likes about it.

I meant your club need to learn some morals, not you.
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Postby Catalan-Tractor-Boy » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:32 pm

1) Players like A.Hole deserve to go to chel$ea. And you werent punished enough in my opinion, whats a fine to you lot??

2) Ken Bates gave his heart and soul to you and you showed no respect once Roman turned up. He has every right to the angry. Still doesnt mean you can steal leeds players!

3) Jon Obi-Mikel, £14m, :lol: . Also what kind of respect can you have for a man whos morals are completely disregarded for a few extra quid! Its not as if he would have been short of cash at Man U??!

4) You're club has no class or respect. More a result of Kenyon, Arnesen, Mourinho, Drogba etc. You were so respectable when you had players like Zola, Guddy, Jimmy FH, Vialli, Guillt who were also great managers like Ranieri!!!

You have paid the price for success and become mercenaries!!!

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