Hernanes

[Emilfu]

My guess, (and I do apologise if I am mistaking) Is that you dont know what kind of player Hernanes actually is. His favourite position is the defensive midfield, physically very strong. And would definately be able to push for Yaya Tourés spot in the starting lineup.

Please do have in mind that Yaya is going away for around 6-8 weeks for African nations cup, so we DO need to sign a player for this spot. As I dont think that Sergio Busquets is ready for a place in the starting 11 in the long run.

Cesc Fabregas would however most definately be an incredible signing, however I dont see us using the 60'ish million € needed to bring him back where he belongs.
As for Fran Merida, he is nowhere near having the skills to be in either Arsenals, nor our own starting 11.
He is talented though, I'll give you that. But having in mind that were gunning(Harh harh) to win everything, I sincerely doubt that he is good enough.

[Serkelet]

My guess, (and I do apologise if I am mistaking) Is that you dont know what kind of player Hernanes actually is. His favourite position is the defensive midfield, physically very strong. And would definately be able to push for Yaya Tourés spot in the starting lineup.

Please do have in mind that Yaya is going away for around 6-8 weeks for African nations cup, so we DO need to sign a player for this spot. As I dont think that Sergio Busquets is ready for a place in the starting 11 in the long run.

Cesc Fabregas would however most definately be an incredible signing, however I dont see us using the 60'ish million € needed to bring him back where he belongs.
As for Fran Merida, he is nowhere near having the skills to be in either Arsenals, nor our own starting 11.
He is talented though, I'll give you that. But having in mind that were gunning(Harh harh) to win everything, I sincerely doubt that he is good enough.

If he plays defensive midfield, then I may agree...

Fran Mérida has talent and a great projection. Everybody doubted about Iniesta at the begining aswell, while I told he was going to be one of the best midfielders since the day he made his debut with the first team.

[Hawk]

Hernanes, mentioned in the article, is mobile, marks and strikes the ball extremely well with both feet. I think he's reached the stage where he needs a move. For all Sao Paulo's efficiency, they are a team that doesn't play much possession football. A while back he was linked with Barcelona.

If there is interest, he should be prepared to swim there. I can't think of anyone more qualified that Guardiola to develop his game

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2 ... e_way.html

on merida, i never understood the hype. he didnt impressed much for spain's youth sides over the years. the likes of bojan, iago, camacho have always stood out more from what i seen.

merida has yet to break in le arse's carling cup team...

[Mythical Revolution]

Hernanes is not a DM and has been playing as a DM merely to accommodate his team, he is an AM but is versatile enough that he can play as a DM/CM or even on both wings. We need an AM in the mold of Kaka or Deco, and with our upcoming schedule we can't afford to have Xavi and Iniesta play every game. Hernanes would be ideal for us, he would provide more than adequate backup to Iniesta/Xavi and may even become a starter at the expense of Iniesta. Tactically we can use him to replace our DM if we're down or to supplant one of our attackers: In the first case we would gain more attacking firepower without jeopardazing our defense, and in the 2nd we would gain more defensive steel without loosing much of our attacking threats. And in many areas where we are lacking he complements us in many ways: he has pace, physical presence, long range shooting, aerial ability.

[The Special One]

Hernanes is not a DM and has been playing as a DM merely to accommodate his team, he is an AM but is versatile enough that he can play as a DM/CM or even on both wings. We need an AM in the mold of Kaka or Deco, and with our upcoming schedule we can't afford to have Xavi and Iniesta play every game. Hernanes would be ideal for us, he would provide more than adequate backup to Iniesta/Xavi and may even become a starter at the expense of Iniesta. Tactically we can use him to replace our DM if we're down or to supplant one of our attackers: In the first case we would gain more attacking firepower without jeopardazing our defense, and in the 2nd we would gain more defensive steel without loosing much of our attacking threats. And in many areas where we are lacking he complements us in many ways: he has pace, physical presence, long range shooting, aerial ability.

You can't be serious...

[Mythical Revolution]

Hernanes is not a DM and has been playing as a DM merely to accommodate his team, he is an AM but is versatile enough that he can play as a DM/CM or even on both wings. We need an AM in the mold of Kaka or Deco, and with our upcoming schedule we can't afford to have Xavi and Iniesta play every game. Hernanes would be ideal for us, he would provide more than adequate backup to Iniesta/Xavi and may even become a starter at the expense of Iniesta. Tactically we can use him to replace our DM if we're down or to supplant one of our attackers: In the first case we would gain more attacking firepower without jeopardazing our defense, and in the 2nd we would gain more defensive steel without loosing much of our attacking threats. And in many areas where we are lacking he complements us in many ways: he has pace, physical presence, long range shooting, aerial ability.

You can't be serious...

I am! I am not expecting him to become an unchallenged starter, but I think that he is a decent shot. Not to supplant Iniesta completely but to be have equal terms when it comes to rotations.

[The Special One]

Have you seen Iniesta play recently?

[Mythical Revolution]

Have you seen Iniesta play recently?

Have you seen Hernanes? The guy is as good as Kaka when he was his age...I'm with you, Iniesta definitely is the better player, and he should be the starter ahead of him. But Hernanes has enough potential, that he could eventually be on equal footing with him when it comes to who gets to play. Each player is somewhat different, and I see no reason why we wouldn't field them together in some games. Hernanes would complement our midfield more, while Iniesta is the better player. Even if Hernanes was to develop more as a player, I don't think there would be much conflict, having 3 world class players rotate over 2 positions is not unheard of in today's football and could certainly be accommodated.

[V1CTOR]

Hernanes is not a DM and has been playing as a DM merely to accommodate his team, he is an AM but is versatile enough that he can play as a DM/CM or even on both wings. We need an AM in the mold of Kaka or Deco, and with our upcoming schedule we can't afford to have Xavi and Iniesta play every game. Hernanes would be ideal for us, he would provide more than adequate backup to Iniesta/Xavi and may even become a starter at the expense of Iniesta. Tactically we can use him to replace our DM if we're down or to supplant one of our attackers: In the first case we would gain more attacking firepower without jeopardazing our defense, and in the 2nd we would gain more defensive steel without loosing much of our attacking threats. And in many areas where we are lacking he complements us in many ways: he has pace, physical presence, long range shooting, aerial ability.

You can't be serious...

he could.

I feel that iniesta (even though hes a great player, easily a top 5 midfielder in the world) has become way to overrated after that Chelsea goal.

[maniaFCB]

Iniesta's rise to fame started with being one of the only real positive aspects of the disappointing 2007-08 season and his great performance at the European championship. Remember, he only scored 5 goals this season yet was widely regarded as one of, if not the best player on the pitch throughout the season. Its not that goal that brought him into the spotlight, its been his steady play for the past two years that is bringing him the accolades.
BTW, I am a fan of Hernanes but I don't think he could consistently compete with Iniesta for a spot in the midfield. I'd reckon he'd earn most of his playing time through injuries, suspensions, and rotation at least during his first season in Spain.

[V1CTOR]

Well yeah, i was thinking he might be a challenge to Iniesta 1-2 seasons after signing him. But then again, people thought Pique was just gonna be a benchwarmer, now i think Marquez (even after he comes back from injury) will be the one benched.

[Emilfu]

The thing with this player is amongst others his versatility.

Over time, he could without a question be our new left forward.

Hernanes is a future keymember in my eyes, I would simply hate if another team signed him before us.

[Mythical Revolution]

The thing with this player is amongst others his versatility.

Over time, he could without a question be our new left forward.

Hernanes is a future keymember in my eyes, I would simply hate if another team signed him before us.

I don't need why do we need anyone on the left. Our formation is best suited if we play with strikers with Messi behind them. It is better for our offense, and incidentally for our defense as well. In a 1-2 setup, Messi is allowed all the freedom in the world to escape marking, exploit the weakness of the opposition's defense and capitalize on the huge holes created by our 2 CF. With 2 CF instead of one, we would have a better chance at turning all the service the service that we get and all the scoring chances that we produce into actual goals. Our defense would be bolstered as well, as our CF would be able to track back without leaving a gap in the center. Granted we will lose breadth on the wings but with good attacking service from our fullbacks (Alves;hopefully Zhirkov), Messi, and CF who are comfortable shifting to the wings either to create space or escape marking we would probably end up loosing nothing at all and gain a lot more by adopting a 1-2 formation, which is why an additional ST/WF is not needed.

[IndoCulé]

Hernanes could be useful in the future to replace Xavi. He would be cheaper than Fabregas and possibly as good as him. If we buy him we should forget about Moutinho.

[Emilfu]

The thing with this player is amongst others his versatility.

Over time, he could without a question be our new left forward.

Hernanes is a future keymember in my eyes, I would simply hate if another team signed him before us.

I don't need why do we need anyone on the left. Our formation is best suited if we play with strikers with Messi behind them. It is better for our offense, and incidentally for our defense as well. In a 1-2 setup, Messi is allowed all the freedom in the world to escape marking, exploit the weakness of the opposition's defense and capitalize on the huge holes created by our 2 CF. With 2 CF instead of one, we would have a better chance at turning all the service the service that we get and all the scoring chances that we produce into actual goals. Our defense would be bolstered as well, as our CF would be able to track back without leaving a gap in the center. Granted we will lose breadth on the wings but with good attacking service from our fullbacks (Alves;hopefully Zhirkov), Messi, and CF who are comfortable shifting to the wings either to create space or escape marking we would probably end up loosing nothing at all and gain a lot more by adopting a 1-2 formation, which is why an additional ST/WF is not needed.

I really could not disagree wit you more.

I mean, we've just had the best season in the history of the club. I simply dont understand, why you want us to change formations. Your formation though, does have potential. But it wont work, as Messi cant play 60 games a season, what would you do without him?


Please have the economic situation in mind, in another thread you want us to buy Pato, Benzema, Chiellini, Zhirkov and Lahm etc. I simply dont get it

Let me break it down, Pato and Benzema is most likely not ready to be the heirtakers to Samuel Eto'o. Both of them however, incredible talents. And they would both propably be ready for the "throne" in just a few years. But not now.

In my eyes Zhirkov is WAY to offensive, and should we sign him, it would most likely lead to a katastrophic season, as we would sell our defensive completely having only 2 real defenders and to extremely offensive backs.

As for Chiellini I do agree that he would be a usefull signing, however I dont think he is interested in joining Barcelona. Secondly I think that our money could be spend better on another position, and another player.